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		<title>by: Anon to avoid further attack</title>
		<link>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-7262</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-7262</guid>
					<description>Kim.kim is a very rigid thinker.  I think she genuinely means well, but she's not as worldly, intelligent, knowledgeable and experienced as she thinks she is.  She often mistakenly targets the helpers as being the real enemy, as viewed through the veil of her tears.  I think she's a mostly good person who unfortunately lashes out at others due to her own pain.  Try not to let it bother you, although I know that's hard.  I'm sorry to see she attacked you too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim.kim is a very rigid thinker.  I think she genuinely means well, but she&#8217;s not as worldly, intelligent, knowledgeable and experienced as she thinks she is.  She often mistakenly targets the helpers as being the real enemy, as viewed through the veil of her tears.  I think she&#8217;s a mostly good person who unfortunately lashes out at others due to her own pain.  Try not to let it bother you, although I know that&#8217;s hard.  I&#8217;m sorry to see she attacked you too.
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		<title>by: Maisha</title>
		<link>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6979</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 09:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6979</guid>
					<description>gosh!i only hold respect for this woman.i am shocked that anyone whould attack her.baggage,i cant say anything more than all these people with nothing but love for you (even weirdo kimkim) but agree with all those supporting you 100%.from across the world,u r in my thoughts and i hope bug comes home soon.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gosh!i only hold respect for this woman.i am shocked that anyone whould attack her.baggage,i cant say anything more than all these people with nothing but love for you (even weirdo kimkim) but agree with all those supporting you 100%.from across the world,u r in my thoughts and i hope bug comes home soon.</p>
<p>:)
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		<title>by: Joy</title>
		<link>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6888</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6888</guid>
					<description>There seems to be no shortage of cruel, unnecessary, and stupid commentors here.


*Baggage* I don't know you but I am sorry that Bug is suffering like this, I pray for her well-being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be no shortage of cruel, unnecessary, and stupid commentors here.</p>
<p>*Baggage* I don&#8217;t know you but I am sorry that Bug is suffering like this, I pray for her well-being.
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		<title>by: No one you know.</title>
		<link>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6742</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6742</guid>
					<description>I've read KimKims blog for quite some time, often with horror. Her posts and comments on others blogs have led me to believe that she could do well with antidepressants and counseling. While I don't know her at all, my impression is that she is someone very close to the edge at all times. A stiff breeze would push her off the edge. One moment she is the happiest person on earth. The next the agony of being a birthmom is overwhelming her. From my readings she is very quick to judge others and criticize as if she knows best about all topics but, if others criticize her, she either deletes their comments of attacks them on her blog. I've also noticed that many of her posts are her set in stone opinion of something she read on someone elses blog. 
She has never parented a child which I think would change her perspective considerably. She has especially never parented a child with emotional problems. Unless someone has done so, has lived with the commitment involved, has learned to settle with tiny improvements over several months and the goal that this child will grow into an adult capable of functioning in society, they cant possibly know what is right for others. If they had lived through these experiences, they would know that they know nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read KimKims blog for quite some time, often with horror. Her posts and comments on others blogs have led me to believe that she could do well with antidepressants and counseling. While I don&#8217;t know her at all, my impression is that she is someone very close to the edge at all times. A stiff breeze would push her off the edge. One moment she is the happiest person on earth. The next the agony of being a birthmom is overwhelming her. From my readings she is very quick to judge others and criticize as if she knows best about all topics but, if others criticize her, she either deletes their comments of attacks them on her blog. I&#8217;ve also noticed that many of her posts are her set in stone opinion of something she read on someone elses blog.<br />
She has never parented a child which I think would change her perspective considerably. She has especially never parented a child with emotional problems. Unless someone has done so, has lived with the commitment involved, has learned to settle with tiny improvements over several months and the goal that this child will grow into an adult capable of functioning in society, they cant possibly know what is right for others. If they had lived through these experiences, they would know that they know nothing.
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		<title>by: SB</title>
		<link>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6725</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6725</guid>
					<description>Actually, this is a really frequent cognitive error or semantic fallacy: thinking that because two events happened in quick succesioon, that they are necessarily related. Google "post hoc ergo propter hoc" if you don't believe me. It's one of the things we have to work hardest to disabuse beginning history students of at the university; it's really hard to understand causality and most things, like this breakdown, are really overdetermined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this is a really frequent cognitive error or semantic fallacy: thinking that because two events happened in quick succesioon, that they are necessarily related. Google &#8220;post hoc ergo propter hoc&#8221; if you don&#8217;t believe me. It&#8217;s one of the things we have to work hardest to disabuse beginning history students of at the university; it&#8217;s really hard to understand causality and most things, like this breakdown, are really overdetermined.
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		<title>by: kimkim</title>
		<link>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6705</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6705</guid>
					<description>Thanks (Baggage) for what you say, it's ridiculous to start picking on me about something that happened 23 years ago.....I have a wonderful relationship with my daughter, one that many mothers don't have with daughter's that grew up with them.

I do think I was a bit impatient in the way I commented to you, I apologize for that. Sometimes I can and will be blunt and rude, it's one of my character flaws.

I hate to disappoint some people but I'm not bitter or sad, I have a wonderful life.

I was overtired from working too much and when I read that Bug was in a mental institution I found it very upsetting.

Again, I am sorry I didn't word things to you more gently, I hope you will forgive me for that.

Thanks for sticking up for me, that shows character and maturity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks (Baggage) for what you say, it&#8217;s ridiculous to start picking on me about something that happened 23 years ago&#8230;..I have a wonderful relationship with my daughter, one that many mothers don&#8217;t have with daughter&#8217;s that grew up with them.</p>
<p>I do think I was a bit impatient in the way I commented to you, I apologize for that. Sometimes I can and will be blunt and rude, it&#8217;s one of my character flaws.</p>
<p>I hate to disappoint some people but I&#8217;m not bitter or sad, I have a wonderful life.</p>
<p>I was overtired from working too much and when I read that Bug was in a mental institution I found it very upsetting.</p>
<p>Again, I am sorry I didn&#8217;t word things to you more gently, I hope you will forgive me for that.</p>
<p>Thanks for sticking up for me, that shows character and maturity.
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		<title>by: akeeyu</title>
		<link>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6681</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"You fucked up, so fix it."

Yes, indeedy  That's a kind and helpful thing to say to the only adult in Bug's life who hasn't let her down, screwed her over, or otherwise failed her.

I love the Internet.  It's full of nice people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You fucked up, so fix it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, indeedy  That&#8217;s a kind and helpful thing to say to the only adult in Bug&#8217;s life who hasn&#8217;t let her down, screwed her over, or otherwise failed her.</p>
<p>I love the Internet.  It&#8217;s full of nice people.
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		<title>by: ann adams</title>
		<link>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6677</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 05:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6677</guid>
					<description>When you were first talking about the younger kids, I said ouch.  Not because I thought it would be harmful to Bug or the new ones.  I worried (because I'm a granny and it's in our nature to fret) that it would be too much for you.  I had visions of you collapsing in a puddle on the floor.

Obviously that hasn't happened.  I'll just have to find something else to worry about.

I'm glad Butterfly and Bug are doing well and I hope your little family will be reunited soon.

Much love,

Ann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you were first talking about the younger kids, I said ouch.  Not because I thought it would be harmful to Bug or the new ones.  I worried (because I&#8217;m a granny and it&#8217;s in our nature to fret) that it would be too much for you.  I had visions of you collapsing in a puddle on the floor.</p>
<p>Obviously that hasn&#8217;t happened.  I&#8217;ll just have to find something else to worry about.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad Butterfly and Bug are doing well and I hope your little family will be reunited soon.</p>
<p>Much love,</p>
<p>Ann
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		<title>by: Mrs Butter B</title>
		<link>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6676</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>But sorry if I offended anyone, I just don't understand why people continually visit blogs and read them if they don't agree with/support/enjoy the blog's premise.  

Seems counterproductive (or troll-like) to me.  If I was in error, by all means, please excuse my posts.  The focus here should be on the girls and their treatment &#38; supporting Baggage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But sorry if I offended anyone, I just don&#8217;t understand why people continually visit blogs and read them if they don&#8217;t agree with/support/enjoy the blog&#8217;s premise.  </p>
<p>Seems counterproductive (or troll-like) to me.  If I was in error, by all means, please excuse my posts.  The focus here should be on the girls and their treatment &amp; supporting Baggage.
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		<title>by: Mrs Butter B</title>
		<link>http://baggageandbug.com/2007/04/25/i-was-wondering-how-long-it-took/#comment-6675</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>To clarify:  I haven't actually read KimKim's blog.  I was responding to other info that she had posted on other blogs- which seems to have conflicted with what her blog says?

In other posting she made in someone else's comments sections (which I'm not linking to because I'm not sure they would want me to), she justified her trolling &#38; flaming because of her anger issues due to giving up a child which she later regretted and felt tricked into giving up, which child later was less than excited about reuniting.  I am pretty positive this is the same person.

By lost her child, do you mean death/abduction?  I've tried to access her blog, but our filter won't open it (I set up a filter to block my kids &#38; their friends, and now I can't figure out how to bypass some of it !! My luck) probably due to sensitive topic matter that I flagged for the filter.

And I had hoped adding humor to a serious suggestion might help the "bitter pill go down" so to speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify:  I haven&#8217;t actually read KimKim&#8217;s blog.  I was responding to other info that she had posted on other blogs- which seems to have conflicted with what her blog says?</p>
<p>In other posting she made in someone else&#8217;s comments sections (which I&#8217;m not linking to because I&#8217;m not sure they would want me to), she justified her trolling &amp; flaming because of her anger issues due to giving up a child which she later regretted and felt tricked into giving up, which child later was less than excited about reuniting.  I am pretty positive this is the same person.</p>
<p>By lost her child, do you mean death/abduction?  I&#8217;ve tried to access her blog, but our filter won&#8217;t open it (I set up a filter to block my kids &amp; their friends, and now I can&#8217;t figure out how to bypass some of it !! My luck) probably due to sensitive topic matter that I flagged for the filter.</p>
<p>And I had hoped adding humor to a serious suggestion might help the &#8220;bitter pill go down&#8221; so to speak.
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